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    Mayer 15
    Casas 19
    Yorke 31
    Duran 91

    Yanks:
    Volpe 10
    Peraza 55
    Dominguez 87
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    On Yorke:

    "He's potentially a double-plus hitter with average power who can stay on the infield"

    If he can stay at 2b, that is the biggest win for this org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Mayer 15
    Casas 19
    Yorke 31
    Duran 91

    Yanks:
    Volpe 10
    Peraza 55
    Dominguez 87
    I'm waiting for jacksonianmarch to say how these ranking are full of shit.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    On Yorke:

    "He's potentially a double-plus hitter with average power who can stay on the infield"

    If he can stay at 2b, that is the biggest win for this org.
    It would be great, if he can stick at 2B, but if his hit tool becomes as great as it looks like it might, we can find a spot for him anywhere, even at DH, that will help the team.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I'm waiting for jacksonianmarch to say how these ranking are full of shit.
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    I have never been a big fan of the projection middle infield HSer. They fit in 3 categories. They’re either 5 tool studs who go top 10, really amazing offensively and they’re not really middle infielders, or defensive whiz’s with a lagging bat. This kid isn’t the first category as we know. Maybe he works out. Maybe Bloom sees things differently. But this looks like a reach where some more upside or more polished players were available. For the first time in awhile, I like our first rounder better than the Sox.
    He's referring to Austin Wells, a beefy C who isn't great behind the dish. Maybe he sticks there for a while like Gary Sanchez, but he has DH written all over him without Yorke's hit tool.
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    I still like Wells. He looks like a Schwarber type who will probably stick behind the plate early in his career as a backup while getting starts in the OF and at 1B. I was not expecting Yorke to tear it up like he did. The rankings are the rankings. MLB has Dominguez in the teens, Gil at the back end and Volpe and Peraza similar. They’ve got Duran in the 20s and Yorke in the back end of the top 100.

    I’ve said before and I’ll say again, Sox system is top heavy. This doesn’t change that perception. It won’t be for long, though. Bloom is a builder and better suited for today’s game than our GM.

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    @SoxProspects
    A day after Baseball America's 2022 top 100 prospect list came out, Baseball Prospectus releases their Top 101. The same four Red Sox made the list.

    -Marcelo Mayer (17)
    -Nick Yorke (40)
    -Triston Casas (44)
    -Jarren Duran (81)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    I still like Wells. He looks like a Schwarber type who will probably stick behind the plate early in his career as a backup while getting starts in the OF and at 1B. I was not expecting Yorke to tear it up like he did. The rankings are the rankings. MLB has Dominguez in the teens, Gil at the back end and Volpe and Peraza similar. They’ve got Duran in the 20s and Yorke in the back end of the top 100.

    I’ve said before and I’ll say again, Sox system is top heavy. This doesn’t change that perception. It won’t be for long, though. Bloom is a builder and better suited for today’s game than our GM.
    Being top heavy is not a bad thing. Most of the very best players come from the top 90 or 100.

    We do drop off quickly after our 4th best prospect, but we have a lot of hopeful prospects that might deliver 1-2 to the top 100, maybe, after the 2022 season ends. (Duran will graduate from prospect status.)

    Bello, Jordan, Downs, Seabold
    W Gonzalez, M Bleis
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    fangraphs has this:

    NYY
    60 Volpe
    50 Peraza, Medina, Dominguez, Vargas
    45+ Schmidt, Y Gomez, Pereira, A Gomez
    45 D Garcia, L Gil, O Cabrera, T Sweeney, K Waldichuk
    40+ (5 players)
    40 (7 players)
    35+ (12 players)

    They have not scored the Sox, yet, but I doubt we are this deep.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    fangraphs has this:

    NYY
    60 Volpe
    50 Peraza, Medina, Dominguez, Vargas
    45+ Schmidt, Y Gomez, Pereira, A Gomez
    45 D Garcia, L Gil, O Cabrera, T Sweeney, K Waldichuk
    40+ (5 players)
    40 (7 players)
    35+ (12 players)

    They have not scored the Sox, yet, but I doubt we are this deep.
    I'm not disagreeing that the Yankees farm system is pretty good. I just think the value for their prospects tend to be a little overinflated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I'm not disagreeing that the Yankees farm system is pretty good. I just think the value for their prospects tend to be a little overinflated.
    I agree.

    I'm not sure if the greater depth in the Yankee system outweighs our top heavy advantage, but I don't think jacko can blast our farm, anymore.

    Thanks Bloom & DD!

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Your farm will be deeper than ours in 2 years, IMO. Bloom has knocked the first pick out of the park two years in a row. Cashman seems to make most of his hay on the INTL market and in the mid rounds with collegiate pitchers. Eventually, the better drafter will win, especially if an international draft is instituted

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Your farm will be deeper than ours in 2 years, IMO. Bloom has knocked the first pick out of the park two years in a row. Cashman seems to make most of his hay on the INTL market and in the mid rounds with collegiate pitchers. Eventually, the better drafter will win, especially if an international draft is instituted
    Our last 3 first round picks have been great:

    Mayer
    Yorke
    Casas (DD)
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    Your farm will be deeper than ours in 2 years, IMO. Bloom has knocked the first pick out of the park two years in a row. Cashman seems to make most of his hay on the INTL market and in the mid rounds with collegiate pitchers. Eventually, the better drafter will win, especially if an international draft is instituted
    How do you think Cashman's strategy will work out if they institute an international draft? Will that be better for the Yanks? Worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
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