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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I think, had they extended Bogey, Bogey would be the SS in 2023 and Story at 2B. After 2023, things may have changed.
    The biggest change would probably be not extending Devers…

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    Jonny Miller opens question to Chaim Bloom by asking if he sees his job being on the line this year. Bloom: “Not something productive to think about, not something I control.”


    Jonny Miller will always be the GOAT.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
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    Jonny Miller opens question to Chaim Bloom by asking if he sees his job being on the line this year. Bloom: “Not something productive to think about, not something I control.”


    Jonny Miller will always be the GOAT.
    Fair answer by Bloom though. He knows what the deal is.
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    Would it matter much, if Sale missed all 2023?

    I'd say no. He's basically the only guy on the 26 that was not really Bloom's choice.

    When you look at the 40 man roster by seniority. Sale is #1 and Devers is #2. While Devers is technically not "Bloom's choice," until the extension kicks in, this is now formly Bloom's team.

    No excuses.

    If a bunch of old or injury-prone players get hurt, that's on Bloom for signing or keeping them around.

    I do see a slim chance Bloom sticks around, if we suck, but it would be a complex and convoluted position to present.

    I'll say it again, this is Bloom's flashpoint season and will be his legacy winter.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    It would matter that Bloom never found someone to replace his rotation spot in 2020, 2021, 2022 or 2023.
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    ( I won't say the "C word.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It would matter that Bloom never found someone to replace his rotation spot in 2020, 2021, 2022 or 2023.
    Please clarify. Do you mean Bloom never found someone to replace Sale as the projected ace in the rotation?

    If so, can I paraphrase that he never signed or traded for a #1 starter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    If so, can I paraphrase that he never signed or traded for a #1 starter?
    That's a fact not in dispute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    That's a fact not in dispute.
    Did he ever do that with Tampa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Please clarify. Do you mean Bloom never found someone to replace Sale as the projected ace in the rotation?

    If so, can I paraphrase that he never signed or traded for a #1 starter?
    Sure. Four years, Bloom didn't acquire anyone that really resembled a top of the rotation starter on a year to year basis. Yes, Eovaldi pitched out of his mind in 2021, but I don't think that was really to be expected. 29% of his career fWAR is just from 2021 and he first appeared in 2011.

    If you really want to be a playoff team, you need a guy to anchor the staff. The Sox haven't had one for Bloom's full tenure. It's been 4 seasons of half measures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Did he ever do that with Tampa?
    He didn't call the shots in Tampa.

    However, they had Blake Snell, Archer (the good version) and traded for Glasnow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    It would matter that Bloom never found someone to replace his rotation spot in 2020, 2021, 2022 or 2023.
    With what money or prospects traded?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    With what money or prospects traded?
    Well, in a hypothetical world he could have signed Gausman (5.7 fWAR) for 110 mill instead of Story for 140 mill.
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    Rodon's contract is also just 22 mill higher than Story's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    With what money or prospects traded?
    Prospects don't have to be traded, nor does anyone when competing for quality free agents. Here are just a few expenditures the Sox chose this winter over signing a guy like Rodon (feel free to substitute another TOTR free agent starter from the past four winters)

    Kluber, Turner, Duvall instead of Rodon. Sox could've platooned youngsters at DH and used it to rest regulars -- like they said was planned -- and picked up an inexpensive glove-first actual CF.

    Or... Kluber and Jansen instead of Rodon. Sox could've made Houck or Whitlock the official closer. They still might by the end of the year if Jansen pulls a Kimbrel.

    Or... I'll be radical here: Kluber, Arroyo, Verdugo, McGuire, Pivetta, Braiser instead of Rodon. The last five signed for a combined $17M. None are sure things -- except Pivetta -- and Verdugo is a board favorite to get traded. Nobody cares about Braiser, while neither Arroyo nor McGuire has ever played a full season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5GoldGloves:OF,75 View Post
    Prospects don't have to be traded, nor does anyone when competing for quality free agents. Here are just a few expenditures the Sox chose this winter over signing a guy like Rodon (feel free to substitute another TOTR free agent starter from the past four winters)

    Kluber, Turner, Duvall instead of Rodon. Sox could've platooned youngsters at DH and used it to rest regulars -- like they said was planned -- and picked up an inexpensive glove-first actual CF.

    Or... Kluber and Jansen instead of Rodon. Sox could've made Houck or Whitlock the official closer. They still might by the end of the year if Jansen pulls a Kimbrel.

    Or... I'll be radical here: Kluber, Arroyo, Verdugo, McGuire, Pivetta, Braiser instead of Rodon. The last five signed for a combined $17M. None are sure things -- except Pivetta -- and Verdugo is a board favorite to get traded. Nobody cares about Braiser, while neither Arroyo nor McGuire has ever played a full season.
    Yes, that's what I meant by "what money?" (Instead of who?)

    Note: No way would I have chosen Rodon to pay large and long.
    Last edited by moonslav59; 02-14-2023 at 05:55 PM.
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