A Realistic View at 2022: Part III

[Old Red]

I could care less what Tony Masshole ever says. He just knows how to state the obvious. It doesn't take much of a baseball mind to figure out that 11-20 ain't good.

It’s not just Tony Mass who is saying it, and if you go out on the many venues that I do you don’t get all the I trust Bloom, and Cora, and they know what they are doing that you get on here. Lots of anger, and frustration, and blame, and at this point the Red Sox deserve all of it.

[mvp 78]

I could care less what Tony Masshole ever says. He just knows how to state the obvious. It doesn't take much of a baseball mind to figure out that 11-20 ain't good.

What a surprise that the year NESN adds him to the broadcast that the entire product becomes unwatchable. Good job guys!

[Old Red]

What a surprise that the year NESN adds him to the broadcast that the entire product becomes unwatchable. Good job guys!

I think Tony Mass does a good job, but if he is unwatchable to you OB is to me. He is no Donny O.

[Old Red]

What a surprise that the year NESN adds him to the broadcast that the entire product becomes unwatchable. Good job guys!

NESN ratings are so low, because of the product on the field not who is in the booth.

[JDavis76]

Buster Olney
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There are currently seven teams on pace to win 100 or more games -- Yankees, Astros, Angels, Mets, Brewers, Dodgers, Padres -- and six on pace to lose 100 or more games... Red Sox, Royals, Tigers, Nationals, Cubs, Reds.

[JDavis76]

NESN ratings are so low, because of the product on the field not who is in the booth.

Bingo

[mvp 78]

I think Tony Mass does a good job, but if he is unwatchable to you OB is to me. He is no Donny O.

I am no OB fan. The TBS product the other night was very enjoyable IMO.

[mvp 78]

NESN ratings are so low, because of the product on the field not who is in the booth.

I think it's both, honestly. I think you can have a mediocre product on the field, but people will still tune in if they enjoy who they are listening to.

When I lived in LA, I listened to Dodgers games all the time. I didn't care about the Dodgers in the least. I didn't care about their players or whether they won or lost. I just liked listening to the GOAT, Vin Scully.

[Old Red]

I think it's both, honestly. I think you can have a mediocre product on the field, but people will still tune in if they enjoy who they are listening to.

When I lived in LA, I listened to Dodgers games all the time. I didn't care about the Dodgers in the least. I didn't care about their players or whether they won or lost. I just liked listening to the GOAT, Vin Scully.

NESN rating were down last year too until the end of the year, and I liked Scully too. Back in the day you could pick up lots of the baseball markets on the old AM transistor and listen to the Ernie Harwells,and Bob Princes and many other great announcers back then.

[Old Red]

I am no OB fan. The TBS product the other night was very enjoyable IMO.

Somebody wanted OB in, and pushed Donny O out.

[mvp 78]

Somebody wanted OB in, and pushed Donny O out.

The muppet man, Tom Werner. I believe he was also the architect of the Pablo Sandoval era.

[Nick]

NESN rating were down last year too until the end of the year, and I liked Scully too. Back in the day you could pick up lots of the baseball markets on the old AM transistor and listen to the Ernie Harwells,and Bob Princes and many other great announcers back then.

I do remember that. I'd channel 'surf' and pick up a random game.

[jad]

I think it's both, honestly. I think you can have a mediocre product on the field, but people will still tune in if they enjoy who they are listening to.

When I lived in LA, I listened to Dodgers games all the time. I didn't care about the Dodgers in the least. I didn't care about their players or whether they won or lost. I just liked listening to the GOAT, Vin Scully.

Yup. Me too. And then they got Mookie.

[5GoldGloves:OF,75]

Bogaerts just said he's open to negotiations during the season. That doesn't sound like a guy who wants to leave Boston.

Most of us view the Story deal and the pretend extension to Xander as the look of a front office ready to move on. But now, if there are no subsequent offers from the Sox, get ready for the big purge...

In describing what he wants, Bogey only used the same word once said by Betts a few years ago: a "fair" offer. It can be assumed that each expected fair market value, to get paid at current industry rates commensurate with players of their caliber.

And for those convinced Mookie wanted out of Boston, remember the day after he was traded that Jim Rice on NESN quoted Betts from a personal phone call: "This is where I want to be."

[Bellhorn04]

Bogaerts just said he's open to negotiations during the season. That doesn't sound like a guy who wants to leave Boston.

Most of us view the Story deal and the pretend extension to Xander as the look of a front office ready to move on. But now, if there are no subsequent offers from the Sox, get ready for the big purge...

In describing what he wants, Bogey only used the same word once said by Betts a few years ago: a "fair" offer. It can be assumed that each expected fair market value, to get paid at current industry rates commensurate with players of their caliber.

And for those convinced Mookie wanted out of Boston, remember the day after he was traded that Jim Rice on NESN quoted Betts from a personal phone call: "This is where I want to be."

The only thing is, "fair market value" is a matter of opinion. There's no consistency at all in the deals guys get.

Seager got $325 million.
Correa, who is 5 months younger and has a higher career WAR, got $105 million (with opt-outs each year).

That's a wild disparity for two similar players.

It's not a rational market.