Judge is finally doing what he should have been doing all along. I never understand when these behemoth hitters outwardly try to pull everything. Judge and Stanton can hit the ball out to any part of any park. Judge got pull happy the last few years and was still productive. Now, he's not pulling much of anything. Almost all his HRs are to CF and RCF. That is very dangerous for opposing pitchers.Originally Posted by mvp 78
Hal sucks
Looks like 6. Hey, I'm the one who said he's the best hitter in the league this year.
But I also value batting average, which analytics dismiss as an overrated stat. To me, the percentage of hits in at bats when a batter swings matters -- because putting the ball in play forces the D to react, and driving it in the gaps or over them advances baserunners.
So let's add Actual Extra Bases to Batting Averages for an Overall Hit Score: Judge 49 + .306 BA = 355; Devers 48 + .340 = 388.
Agreed. I don't think any GM offers Bogey 8+ years. He may not even get a 7 year offer.
If he was a great defensive SS, he would get it.
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Devers has 13 XBHs to Judges 21, but since Judge walks more, he has 19 less ABs.
Why not just use SLG%?
.721 Ward
.689 Trout
.672 Judge
.634 Harper
.617 Chisholm
.603 Cron
.597 Arenado
.588 Devers
11. JD .564
13. Stanton .538
28. Bogey .482
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You have to admit it’s nice to see the training wheels off these starting pitchers? Let the starters pitch! There is no reason for pitch counts, how many times u face the lineup and all this analytical bullish!t.
Let the men pitch
Slugging is a good metric, and by all percentages Ward is far ahead of everyone. But he's also only had two-thirds of the at bats of Devers. That's why Rafey (and Judge) lead in Actual Extra Bases on hits. They're ahead of Trout and Harper, too.
I've been arguing that Hill and Wacha have better histories than Eovaldi and Pivetta the 3rd time through a line-up, and to let them go deeper, but now Wacha is on the IL.
They did let Hill go 6 innings, finally!
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Trout has 22 XBHs. Judge 21, according to fangraphs.
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1. That’s not what batting average measures. It measures the percentage of time a batter gets a hit in a plate appearance in which he does not walk, get hit by a pitch, voluntarily give himself up by bunting to move a runner over, or hit a reasonably deep fly ball with a runner on third and less than two out.
2. 49 + .306 does not equal .355. It equals 49.306.
3. If you want XBH to be incorporated with BA, that’s exactly what SLG does…
1): MLB.com: "batting average is determined by dividing a player's hits by his total at-bats"
2): I knew I'd get corrected on a statistic that I made up for my own evaluations...
3)... slugging percentage = total bases divided by at bats... but like I said, I subtracted total hits from total bases, to find actual extra bases touched beyond first base (which isn't actually extra).
Here are legit questions I'm not sure of for stat-minded posters:
if a batter has an OBP of .500, does that mean he reaches base via hit, walk or hbp in half his plate appearances?
if he has a slugging percentage of .500, does that mean he averages touching half a base in every at bat?
if you add OBP and SLG and get an OPS over 1, does that mean he averages at least a base every single time up?
how can they combine one stat that considers PA with another that only uses ABs?
1. You talked about swinging the bat in your definition of BA. A batter does not need to swing to be credited with an at bat.
3. ISO (Isolated Power) is the stat you’re looking for. It’s SLG minus BA, and removes the dependency on singles from a hitters profile. Fangraphs has it on their tables. B-R (I believe) does not…
It certainly has flaws, but to me it's not the AB and PA thing. It counts singles twice and BBs once, and they are hardly worth double.
OBP is still a very important stat as related to scoring runs, despite the new trend that seemingly steers away from it.
SLG is very important, too.
Adding the two makes sense, to me, despite it's flaws. It's easy and counts two major run scoring factors.
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Thanks. Here's what I found on MLB (I was kinda paraphrasing it):
Definition
ISO measures the raw power of a hitter by taking only extra-base hits -- and the type of extra-base hit -- into account.
For example, a player who goes 1-for-5 with a double has an ISO of .200. A player who goes 2-for-5 with a single and a double has a higher batting average than the first player, but the same ISO of .200.
The formula
(1x2B + 2x3B + 3xHR) / At-bats OR Slugging percentage - Batting average
Why it's useful
By focusing strictly on extra-base hits, ISO can help evaluate the raw power a player has.
This is very useful, but like all stats, it is flawed, too.
It does not take into account a batter's baserunning skills, pitchers faced or park dimensions and opposing defense levels.
I like ISO, though, but I rarely quote the numbers. I don't think many care about the stat.
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