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Thread: A Realistic View at 2023: Part I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elktonnick View Post
    That may be true but who is keeping there.
    It's not like they have options in the outfield. At best somebody gives you something marginally better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Players do change positions all the time in the minors and even in the majors.

    Bloom did keep Duran on the OF, but one reason to do it is the Sox system is completely devoid of outfield talent above A ball, with only Rafaela Cedane as the exception due to a recent promotion to Portland.

    So if they put Duran back at 2b - not the worst idea - who plays CF?
    The last time everyone complained about no talent in the outfield was literally a year before we got the Benintendi/JBJ/Betts outfield that was outstanding. Things could look very different out there in two years, still, I don't see anything in the pipeline, we need at least one major upgrade out there to come from a trade/FA

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    It's not like they have options in the outfield. At best somebody gives you something marginally better.
    ABD. Anybody but Duran. What do you think the pitching staff think about him playing out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    ABD. Anybody but Duran. What do you think the pitching staff think about him playing out there?
    I think they're scared to death of him out there. Perhaps the better question is, who should our centerfielder be? We had one, but we DFA'd him because he couldn't hit, now we're stuck with a guy who can't hit or field. I'd take JBJ of Duran right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    I think they're scared to death of him out there. Perhaps the better question is, who should our centerfielder be? We had one, but we DFA'd him because he couldn't hit, now we're stuck with a guy who can't hit or field. I'd take JBJ of Duran right now.
    Agree 100% on JBJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    The last time everyone complained about no talent in the outfield was literally a year before we got the Benintendi/JBJ/Betts outfield that was outstanding. Things could look very different out there in two years, still, I don't see anything in the pipeline, we need at least one major upgrade out there to come from a trade/FA
    The most obvious trade target to me is Oakland’s Ramon Laureano, who played CF and RF ( not at the same time; but that’d be cool) and has probably the best arm in MLB. He’s second year arb, meaning trade bait in Oakland. Lately Dave Forst was trading for quantity over quality, like with Chapman and Olson. But he did go for quality with Montas. BTV accepts Yorke and Duran, but I doubt Boston parts with Yorke. Bello and Duran, whose speed in a spacious Oakland OF helps in the corners and whose salary fits their books, is more likely. Pending approval of Forst, of course…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    The most obvious trade target to me is Oakland’s Ramon Laureano, who played CF and RF ( not at the same time; but that’d be cool) and has probably the best arm in MLB. He’s second year arb, meaning trade bait in Oakland. Lately Dave Forst was trading for quantity over quality, like with Chapman and Olson. But he did go for quality with Montas. BTV accepts Yorke and Duran, but I doubt Boston parts with Yorke. Bello and Duran, whose speed in a spacious Oakland OF helps in the corners and whose salary fits their books, is more likely. Pending approval of Forst, of course…
    Like I said before BTV is useless if it accepted Duran for anything. Yorke status has taken a big hit downward this your too not in the BTV world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    The most obvious trade target to me is Oakland’s Ramon Laureano, who played CF and RF ( not at the same time; but that’d be cool) and has probably the best arm in MLB. He’s second year arb, meaning trade bait in Oakland. Lately Dave Forst was trading for quantity over quality, like with Chapman and Olson. But he did go for quality with Montas. BTV accepts Yorke and Duran, but I doubt Boston parts with Yorke. Bello and Duran, whose speed in a spacious Oakland OF helps in the corners and whose salary fits their books, is more likely. Pending approval of Forst, of course…
    WOuldn't mind Laureano, I don't think hes going to cost a lot either, I also wouldn't mind signing judge and running with Verdugo/Laureano/Judge. Resign Bogaerts and Vasquez and now you have a lineup you can believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Red Sox fan named Hugh View Post
    WOuldn't mind Laureano, I don't think hes going to cost a lot either, I also wouldn't mind signing judge and running with Verdugo/Laureano/Judge. Resign Bogaerts and Vasquez and now you have a lineup you can believe in.
    What about Raffy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Agree 100% on JBJ
    Hey he’s still available. So in defensive specialist/offensive non-entity Lorenzo Cain…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    What about Raffy?
    What about him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    What about him?
    He wasn’t mentioned in being resigned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Hey he’s still available. So in defensive specialist/offensive non-entity Lorenzo Cain…
    Like I said earlier. ABD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    Like I said before BTV is useless if it accepted Duran for anything. Yorke status has taken a big hit downward this your too not in the BTV world.
    I didn’t know Dave Forst gave you power of attorney.

    I actually doubt Yorke’s status has taken as much of a hit. Scouts still love his advanced approach and overall hit tool, and one season won’t immediately change that, especially for a 20yo. Plenty of guys his age struggle as sophomores in college but go on to get drafted early…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Red View Post
    What about Raffy?
    He's not a free agent this offseason, if they can sign him to an extension great, if they can't he's still on this team.

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