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    Yankees get Montas and Trivino

    For Sears, Waldichuk, Medina and Cooper Bowman
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    For Sears, Waldichuk, Medina and Cooper Bowman
    Trivino is awful. Hate to lose waldichuck and sears but you gotta give to get. Hopefully Montas' shoulder is ok.

    Cue moon and bellhop cheering that the Yanks "gutted their system" as their team wallows in the cellar and their farm isn't all that exciting.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDavis76 View Post
    Trivino is awful. Hate to lose waldichuck and sears but you gotta give to get. Hopefully Montas' shoulder is ok.

    Cue moon and bellhop cheering that the Yanks "gutted their system" as their team wallows in the cellar and their farm isn't all that exciting.....
    Thing is Sox had to sacrifice the farm for 4 rings in the last 20 years.

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    Some good pitching gets for the Yanks.
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    They didnít gut their system at all, thatís the crazy thing.

    Trivino has a better xFIP this year than he did last year. His babip is .451 and his HR/FB rate is 20%. Heís got top end stuff. Heís got experience. Heís a guy you let steep in the middle innings to see if he finds himself.

    Montas is a true front of the rotation pitcher who I have my concerns about. Mostly due to his prior place of residence and how you can pitch pretty aggressively in the coliseum. Not so much in Yankee stadium.

    In terms of who we gave upÖ.

    Sears was our 17th ranked prospect coming into the season who really blossomed into a strike throwing starter who will likely slot directly into Montasí spot. Waldichuk is the best prospect here and will also likely slide into a starterís role. Waldichuk doesnít throw strikes as well as Sears, though, and May end up a multi inning weapon out of the pen. Medina was an obvious trade candidate this year since heís out of options in 2023 and has been only reasonably good in AA. Bowman is a project with lots of swing and miss but speed for days, developing power and the hands to stay at 2b.

    Overall, the Yanks had to go for it. They kept their top 2 prospects and they still added one legit pen arm, another legit historically guy having a weird season in Trivino and a front of the rotation starter in Montas

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    The Red Sox traded Montas back in 2013 as part of the deadline deal for Jake Peavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iortiz View Post
    Thing is Sox had to sacrifice the farm for 4 rings in the last 20 years.

    It will be restored.
    Maybe.

    Or not......

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    Yanks have succeeded in drafting and developing pitching, especially in the middle rounds. Wesneski was a 6th rounder. Waldichuk was a 5th rounder. Montgomery a 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    They didn’t gut their system at all, that’s the crazy thing.

    Trivino has a better xFIP this year than he did last year. His babip is .451 and his HR/FB rate is 20%. He’s got top end stuff. He’s got experience. He’s a guy you let steep in the middle innings to see if he finds himself.

    Montas is a true front of the rotation pitcher who I have my concerns about. Mostly due to his prior place of residence and how you can pitch pretty aggressively in the coliseum. Not so much in Yankee stadium.

    In terms of who we gave up….

    Sears was our 17th ranked prospect coming into the season who really blossomed into a strike throwing starter who will likely slot directly into Montas’ spot. Waldichuk is the best prospect here and will also likely slide into a starter’s role. Waldichuk doesn’t throw strikes as well as Sears, though, and May end up a multi inning weapon out of the pen. Medina was an obvious trade candidate this year since he’s out of options in 2023 and has been only reasonably good in AA. Bowman is a project with lots of swing and miss but speed for days, developing power and the hands to stay at 2b.

    Overall, the Yanks had to go for it. They kept their top 2 prospects and they still added one legit pen arm, another legit historically guy having a weird season in Trivino and a front of the rotation starter in Montas
    I disagree, he is what the back of baseball card says he is, a struggling bullpen arm with a career ERA north of 4.00 and a career WHIP of 1.34

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    Heís had three excellent seasons and two stinkers. Heís a good buy low candidate

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDavis76 View Post
    I disagree, he is what the back of baseball card says he is, a struggling bullpen arm with a career ERA north of 4.00 and a career WHIP of 1.34
    His BABIPA is over .450. That’s just fluky and unsustainable, even if Oakland’s defense is horrible…

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    He’s had three excellent seasons and two stinkers. He’s a good buy low candidate
    We didn't exactly "buy low".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDavis76 View Post
    We didn't exactly no "buy low".
    We bought him low. If he was pitching like he was in 2021, no way we get him

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    We bought him low. If he was pitching like he was in 2021, no way we get him
    K/9 is up.
    B/9 is down
    Fastball velocity is equal.
    FIP roughly equal

    He has allowed a couple more home runs, but other than that he is pitching better than in 2021. But the team behind him appears to be substantially worse defensively (which was to be expected when they dealt Chapman and Olson).

    If a pitcher’s biggest weakness is his teammates’ play, he is a very good get…
    Last edited by notin; 08-01-2022 at 04:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonianmarch View Post
    We bought him low. If he was pitching like he was in 2021, no way we get him
    He was a salary dump by the A's, we didn't buy low.

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