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Thread: Sox DFA Sawamura, possibly Davis, too

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    Sox DFA Sawamura, possibly Davis, too


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    Too little too late.
    The King of TalkSox has Spoken.

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    "Relief pitchers are a crapshoot." No, the truth is "Crapshoot pitchers are relievers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by a700hitter View Post
    Too little too late.
    Not sure why Brasier was spared.

    No word yet on who is getting called up, but as these two were DFAd, it could be anyone in the organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    Not sure why Brasier was spared.

    No word yet on who is getting called up, but as these two were DFAd, it could be anyone in the organization.
    The bullpen needs a complete overhaul for next season. I would make Whitlock a starter. Keep Houck and Schreiber in the pen , but acquire a good closer ( you mentioned Treinen , who would be good ) . Then fill it out with hard throwing , but maybe not well known relievers. No more retreads.
    Old school is good school.

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    Kelly and Ort will not make a difference.
    Last edited by moonslav59; 08-28-2022 at 10:26 PM.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgalehouse View Post
    The bullpen needs a complete overhaul for next season.
    The pen might be fine...

    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Okay, Ort and Kelly are called up, and Kelly was added to the 40.

    Who gets added to the other 40 man slot?

    Tristan Casas?
    Frank German?
    Enmanuel Valdez?
    Chris Murphy?
    When you say it's gonna happen now
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    MLBTR reports...

    Sawamura’s contract came with a split option for 2023, with various escalators in play. MLBTR’s Anthony Franco recently looked at that option, noting that the club option had already increase to $3.6MM. Since that writing, it has ticked up to $3.7MM and still had room to climb. If the club had declined that option, Sawamura would have had the ability to trigger a player option, which had reached $1.9MM as of today and could still have grown further. It seems the Red Sox didn’t intend to trigger their end of the deal and are cutting Sawamura loose.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Keely and Ort will not make a difference.
    Ort is horrible.

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    How is Braiser not DFAed?

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    An interesting point on Sawamura that shows how stats can be deceiving.

    Here were the top OPS Against numbers before today's game (170+ PAs):

    .539 Schreiber
    .588 Whitlock
    .605 Wacha
    .608 Houck
    .634 Sawamura
    .710 Pivetta
    .742 Davis
    .744 Diekman
    .752 R Hill
    .774 Eovaldi
    .783 Crawford
    .846 Brasier
    .859 Winckowski

    25-170 PAs Against
    .584 Sale
    .589 Valdez
    .664 Strahm
    .665 Danish
    .678 Barnes
    .678 Familia
    .831 Robles
    .930 Ort
    .955 Bello
    1.296 Seabold
    1.376 DHern


    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedballgame View Post
    How is Braiser not DFAed?
    All three seem equally deserving.

    He's getting paid more than Sawamura and Davis and will be up for his last arb, next season.

    I'm guessing he'll be non-tendered.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedballgame View Post
    Ort is horrible.
    Maybe one last look. One last chance.

    I don't expect him back, next year.
    When you say it's gonna happen now
    When exactly do you mean?

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    So is it safe to now say officially from the FO, that this season is over and September/short Oct will be tryouts for some organizational candidates ? If so, why ORT , we have seen his non-stuff ? Kelly is a retread already, though with no MLb experience. When you pass through both the Angels and A's organizations and can't break through, you have a limited future as a 27 year old newbie.

    Maybe the bigger question is why makes moves at all now ? This is not a desperate attempt to win the next 34 games. These are moves that should have been made August 2nd, after trying like hell to trade one or both of Sawamura and Davis for literally anything who could walk and talk or read signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegasbob View Post
    So is it safe to now say officially from the FO, that this season is over and September/short Oct will be tryouts for some organizational candidates ? If so, why ORT , we have seen his non-stuff ? Kelly is a retread already, though with no MLb experience. When you pass through both the Angels and A's organizations and can't break through, you have a limited future as a 27 year old newbie.

    Maybe the bigger question is why makes moves at all now ? This is not a desperate attempt to win the next 34 games. These are moves that should have been made August 2nd, after trying like hell to trade one or both of Sawamura and Davis for literally anything who could walk and talk or read signs.
    You do realize the Sox best reliever this year has been a 28yo retread who couldn’t make it in the Tigers’ bullpen and was released after all of 28 career IP?

    Not to mention Kelly isn’t some 9 year minor league veteran. He played college ball, then spent one season on the A’s system and 2 seasons (in which he played at 4 total levels) in the Angels system…
    Last edited by notin; 08-29-2022 at 12:28 AM.

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