22 IP 22 ERA 22 fWAR 22 bWAR
Pivetta 179.67 4.56 1.50 2.60
Whitlock 78.33 3.45 1.40 1.80
Sale 5.67 3.18 0.20 0.00
Paxton 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Bello 57.33 4.71 1.30 0.40
Crawford 77.67 5.47 0.50 0.20
Winckowski 70.67 5.89 0.00 -0.30
Seabold 18.33 11.29 -0.20 -1.00
Houck 60.00 3.15 0.70 1.60
Average 60.85 4.77 0.60 0.59
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
I have almost 0 confidence in that rotation. Paxton and Sale over/under 20.5 starts combined this season?
I think we add a starter, but here is what I think might happen (subject to adjustments, later)
GS/IP Pitcher ERA
33/180 Pivetta 4.25
26/160 Whitlock 3.25
26/150 Bello 4.00
20/110 Sale 3.00
16/90 Crawford 4.75
16/90 Winckowski 5.00
10/40 Paxton 4.25
15/60 Others 5.75
Last edited by moonslav59; 12-10-2022 at 08:41 PM.
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Pretty optimistic. You're predicting improvements for everyone in ERA, even though offense is supposedly getting a boost next year.Originally Posted by moonslav59
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
This isn't the realistic thread, LOL.
I think I'm closer on ERA than GS and IP.
I think Sale, Whitlock and Bello might do better than I guessed but the others probably worse.
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Realistically, bringing both Eovaldi and Wacha back would be good ideas.
I mean they are also both injury risks, but there is some actual known upside there.
It's a speculative rotation, but at least one where the positive side of the coin is considerable
Sale will be good assuming he doesn't tear his rotator cuff doing jumping jacks
Bello has real promise
Eovaldi has been one of the better starters in baseball when he has been healthy
Wacha was good enough for Boston to miss him badly when he was out
Whitlock was never really in a position to start for real. There is some risk that he's really just a great relieve, but he pounds the strike zone which usually is a good sign
Pivetta is an innings eater
I hate to say it, but this rotation and depth has the potential to be truly abysmal.
Adding Eovaldi, Kluber, Wacha, hell just about anyone who can pitch, would make me feel a little better.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
This rotation has plenty of potential -- the potential to lose Eovaldi, Wacha and Hill -- who were all pretty good when not about to go on or come off the IL. That's three starters from a rotation good enough to finish in last place.
Something to consider when counting on comebacking rehabbing veterans: the new pitch clock, which they've never dealt with in their careers. Also, another new rule factor for an effective overall pitcher will be the ability to hold runners on base, without throwing over unless he has a killer pick-off move.
Prediction: younger pitchers with pitch clock experience will be early staff leaders, at least... so Bello and Whitlock > Sale and Paxton (and that's not even counting health).
The good news is, Bloom has promised to add a starter who provides upside, leadership and innings.
Can anyone guess who he's talking about?
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
He's already offered #5 starters $13M AAV (which they accepted from other clubs instead)... but isn't allowed to give a Japanese ace $15M?
Must be saving the budget for a longterm Rodon contract. Yea, sure.
Maybe Old Red is on to something about the Sox confusing their international recruits?
But, hey, we fixed the pen! Wasn't that all we needed to do, according to so many, here.
This could end up being a fine exemplar of how robbing Peter to pay Paul ends up leaving a team no better off.
Yes, we could have signed Jansen, last year, but would we have been any better off with him over Wacha and Hill?
We'd have needed to start Whitlock or Houck more or given Wink and Crawford 15-20 more starts each- or both!
It's a balancing act.
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I don't think anyone said fix the pen and f**k the rotation, but I could be wrong.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
Especially those who called to fix the pen during the season…
Nobody said it, but they fail to realize that spending in one area means not spending in another.
"We went over the tax line anyway, so we could have done both."
Could and would is the key and flawed mindset switch, IMO.
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It doesn't matter what any of us say, though. It's up to the team to know what they're doing.
I think we've all agreed that there are no excuses for not making the playoffs this year.
Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1
The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.
Ohtani will not get a guaranteed $500 million.
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