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    2023 Prospects

    May as well start it.

    SoxProspects just added scouting reports for the guys picked up in the Rule 5 draft.

    Joe Jacques: https://www.soxprospects.com/players/jacques-joe.htm
    93mph FB, slurvy breaking ball, lanky lefty specialist, struggles with RHB

    Ryan Miller: https://www.soxprospects.com/players/miller-ryan.htm
    95mph FB, curve, change, indy ball plus injuries and reverse split last season, misses bats but gives up hard contact
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    I doubt we see much change from the EOY to BOY rankings, unless we trade a top prospect or add one, but I like our farm's improvement.

    We recently graduated Whitlock & Houck (mid '21) and Bello, Wong, Crawford, Wink, Duran and Ort in '22. Our top orpsects now are...

    1. Mayer
    2. Casas (soon to graduate)
    3. Bleis
    4. Rafaela

    5. Yorke
    6. Mata
    7. Romero

    8. Walter (26 years old)
    9. Anthony
    10. Perales
    11. Paulino
    12. Wikelman

    13. Murphy
    14. Lugo
    15. Jordan
    16. Bonaci
    17 E Valdez
    18. Hickey
    19. Rodriguez-Cruz
    20. Kavadas
    21. Coffey

    22. Seabold (26)
    23. Downs (I knew he was overrated)
    24. German
    25. Drohan
    26. Kelly (27 yrs old)
    27. RoHern (25)
    28. Abreu

    29. Brannon
    30. Paez
    31. Uberstine
    32. Hamilton

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    The only thing that will force a change before the season is if the guys see considerable improvement in ST for someone or if they get eyes on someone they haven't really been able to scout in person before and it changes their opinion.
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    It’s not only Jeter Downs.
    The Red Sox have traded for 25 minor league players in the past three years. They’re still waiting to get more than modest major league help from any of them, and none currently rank among their very best prospects.


    What trade acquisitions could help the MLB team this year?

    Wong - back up catcher, but his bat could play up at some point
    Winckowski - arm would look much more potent in a relief role
    Valdez - maybe he has a chance to play some 2b? it's not like there's much competition
    Seabold - not really seeing it, but he had a great changeup at one point
    German - if he develops a secondary pitch he becomes a late inning arm right away
    RHernandez - depth catcher at best, not even the 3rd option though, bat didn't develop
    Abreu - bb's, corner OF with plus arm, power bat are some of the needs this team has, but he's a late season addition at best
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    @chadjennings22
    It’s not only Jeter Downs.
    The Red Sox have traded for 25 minor league players in the past three years. They’re still waiting to get more than modest major league help from any of them, and none currently rank among their very best prospects.


    What trade acquisitions could help the MLB team this year?

    Wong - back up catcher, but his bat could play up at some point
    Winckowski - arm would look much more potent in a relief role
    Valdez - maybe he has a chance to play some 2b? it's not like there's much competition
    Seabold - not really seeing it, but he had a great changeup at one point
    German - if he develops a secondary pitch he becomes a late inning arm right away
    RHernandez - depth catcher at best, not even the 3rd option though, bat didn't develop
    Abreu - bb's, corner OF with plus arm, power bat are some of the needs this team has, but he's a late season addition at best
    The list is not pretty. Many of the trades we acquired prospects for included getting a MLB player attached (Ottavino & German/ Cordero w Wink & 4 long shots/ Hosmer with Ferguson & Rosier/ Pivetta w Seabold/ JBJ with Binelas & Hamilton and Downs & Wong w Verdugo.)

    Only the Valdez & Abreu for Vaz deal looks like a straight MLB for only prospects deal that might add value.

    The Waiver, Rule 5 and Minor FAs additions looks better:
    Whitlock
    Schreiber
    Refsnyder
    Kelly

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    I forgot Hamilton. He has an outside chance at providing value at the end of the year because of his speed and the position he plays. However, his upside is much lower than the other guys I mentioned. Binelas isn't even a consideration at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    I forgot Hamilton. He has an outside chance at providing value at the end of the year because of his speed and the position he plays. However, his upside is much lower than the other guys I mentioned. Binelas isn't even a consideration at the moment.
    Is Wallace now ahead of Binelas?
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    Matthew Lugo went 3-for-5 with a double (3), home run (6), and four RBI in last night's 12-3 Criollos de Caguas victory. The 21-year-old infielder has slashed .248/.336/455 over 117 PA in Puerto Rico this Winter. He's #14 on the #SP60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Is Wallace now ahead of Binelas?
    Wallace is more likely to get a cup of coffee. Binelas really needs to turn it around. He was awful last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvp 78 View Post
    Wallace is more likely to get a cup of coffee. Binelas really needs to turn it around. He was awful last year.
    I did like Wallace. I prefer him over Wyatt Mills…

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    Quote Originally Posted by notin View Post
    I did like Wallace. I prefer him over Wyatt Mills…
    ...and Ort, and Brasier, and...
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    Mills did not do too well in AA (1.30 WHIP) but was sharp in AAA (0.995 with a 13.1 K/9 rate.)

    I won't mention his MLB numbers in 42 IP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    Mills did not do too well in AA (1.30 WHIP) but was sharp in AAA (0.995 with a 13.1 K/9 rate.)

    I won't mention his MLB numbers in 42 IP.
    In his last 10 games of the season he had a 3.18 ERA, 3.29 FIP, .612 OPSa.
    Championships since purchase by John Henry group: Red Sox 4 Yankees 1

    The Red Sox are 8-1 in their last 9 postseason games against the Yankees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellhorn04 View Post
    In his last 10 games of the season he had a 3.18 ERA, 3.29 FIP, .612 OPSa.
    It's time for Bloom to start hitting on a higher percent of deals like this. I realize this isn't the type of deal that is going to move mountains, but the flashpoint I spoke of is upon him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonslav59 View Post
    I doubt we see much change from the EOY to BOY rankings, unless we trade a top prospect or add one, but I like our farm's improvement.

    We recently graduated Whitlock & Houck (mid '21) and Bello, Wong, Crawford, Wink, Duran and Ort in '22. Our top orpsects now are...

    1. Mayer
    2. Casas (soon to graduate)
    3. Bleis
    4. Rafaela

    5. Yorke
    6. Mata
    7. Romero

    8. Walter (26 years old)
    9. Anthony
    10. Perales
    11. Paulino
    12. Wikelman

    13. Murphy
    14. Lugo
    15. Jordan
    16. Bonaci
    17 E Valdez
    18. Hickey
    19. Rodriguez-Cruz
    20. Kavadas
    21. Coffey

    22. Seabold (26)
    23. Downs (I knew he was overrated)
    24. German
    25. Drohan
    26. Kelly (27 yrs old)
    27. RoHern (25)
    28. Abreu

    29. Brannon
    30. Paez
    31. Uberstine
    32. Hamilton

    Zero pitchers in the top 5? Pitiful!

    I think mata becomes the 2023 version of Bello.

    I think Bleis end 2023 in Greenville?

    I think Murphy gets innings in Boston in 2023.

    I think Paulino is the 2023 version of refeala!

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