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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

    Quote Originally Posted by iortiz View Post
    Yup. Look what he did with us. Look what he did with Philly. There's no sign of decline or something there. He'll be solid the rest of his contract in Philly IMO given the facts.. He is durable, reliable, and solid. He's simply the best closer in the league.

    Yup, We should have resigned Pap, but our great FO again, didn't... Instead and as usual brought/trade a sack of overpaid busts :thumbdown
    No we shouldn't have. It's a stupid contract for a reliever whose production can be replicated by someone cheaper. His production last year was on par with several available relievers (I.E Nathan) who went for much cheaper.

    I understand that you have a love affair with Papelbon, but that doesn't make his contract any less stupid. Please stop banging this drum.
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    Also, stop pretending that you know Papelbon will be healthy/effective for the rest of his contract. You don't have a crystal ball so you don't know that, and it's annoying as fuck.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    No we shouldn't have. It's a stupid contract for a reliever whose production can be replicated by someone cheaper. His production last year was on par with several available relievers (I.E Nathan) who went for much cheaper.

    I understand that you have a love affair with Papelbon, but that doesn't make his contract any less stupid. Please stop banging this drum.
    Stupid contract ? Jajaja stupid is our FO for let him go. He's been solid, durable and reliable for so many years. Not only one, MANY!...: reason why he got that contract. In the end, yr by yr he will make the money he made in Boston with his career numbers, regardless the cost of the money at the end of his contract. As anything in life, prime things cost and "a lot" and he is the cream of the cream...

    We all know you are a detractor of that contract, please stop banging this drum.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    Also, stop pretending that you know Papelbon will be healthy/effective for the rest of his contract. You don't have a crystal ball so you don't know that, and it's annoying as fuck.
    You need to comprehend what you read. I wrote IMO given the facts.

    Comprende?
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    Stupid contract ? Jajaja stupid is our FO for let him go. He's been solid, durable and reliable for so many years. Not only one, MANY!...: reason why he got that contract. In the end, yr by yr he will make the money he made in Boston with his career numbers, regardless the cost of the money at the end of his contract. As anything in life, prime things cost and "a lot" and he is the cream of the cream...

    We all know you are a detractor of that contract, please stop banging this drum.
    Papelbon's contract is ugly. He got paid like Mo and he's not Mo.

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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

    Quote Originally Posted by iortiz View Post
    Stupid contract ? Jajaja stupid is our FO for let him go. He's been solid, durable and reliable for so many years. Not only one, MANY!...: reason why he got that contract. In the end, yr by yr he will make the money he made in Boston with his career numbers, regardless the cost of the money at the end of his contract. As anything in life, prime things cost and "a lot" and he is the cream of the cream...

    We all know you are a detractor of that contract, please stop banging this drum.
    Papelbon was as consistent and reliable a reliever as anyone in the game not named Rivera. He's never had an arm issue after 2006. The guy is a stud closer and the Phillies paid the price for a stud. Last year, we had a psycho and a lame fill Paps spot, and as some of us predicted the end of games were like bad horror movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSN07 View Post
    Papelbon's contract is ugly. He got paid like Mo and he's not Mo.
    I think you haven't seen and compared their numbers. Mo 2.21 career ERA. Pap? 2.34 career ERA.

    As I said once... Pap is driving in the same highway.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    I think you haven't seen and compared their numbers. Mo 2.21 career ERA. Pap? 2.34 career ERA.

    As I said once... Pap is driving in the same highway.
    He hasn't gotten to Mo money yet.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    Papelbon was as consistent and reliable a reliever as anyone in the game not named Rivera. He's never had an arm issue after 2006. The guy is a stud closer and the Phillies paid the price for a stud. Last year, we had a psycho and a lame fill Paps spot, and as some of us predicted the end of games were like bad horror movies.
    It's funny how people protect busts who make tons of money and point at quality players who make the money they deserve like Pap.... regardless he is from our farm. Lamentable.

    Hopefully Bailly or whoever fills his shoes. Doubt it.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    He hasn't gotten to Mo money yet.
    I would not be surprise if at the end of his career made something similar.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    It's funny how people protect busts who make tons of money...
    Like who?

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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    It's funny how people protect busts who make tons of money and point at quality players who make the money they deserve like Pap.... regardless he is from our farm. Lamentable.

    Hopefully Bailly or whoever fills his shoes. Doubt it.
    I don't think he has made as much as KRod, and he is much better than KRod.
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    Chaim, you are in the big leagues now. Drawing 10,000 fans a game is not going to cut it, and people don’t buy tickets to Fenway to talk about the Farm

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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    Like who?
    Like who? :lol: plenty of people here and outside this board. Go through threads and you will realize who.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    I don't think he has made as much as KRod, and he is much better than KRod.
    Plus... People do not realize that he was already proved on our environment; In the ALE...and that my friend is invaluable.

    Anyway... Hopefully we fill his shoes somehow.
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    Re: Should the Sox trade some Bullpen arms?

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    I don't think he has made as much as KRod, and he is much better than KRod.
    Light years :lol:
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