August 9th @ Kansas City

[MANNYHOF24]

Beckett(bos) 13-6 5.00 vs. Mark Redman (KC) 7-6 5.38

Come on Josh, this should be a win tonight!


I have been holding back, but I think its time for some Manny mojo!

[BoSox34]

http://andrewteman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/1093350715_3340_1.jpg

[RoyNHSox]

From Tito's interview on WEEI today, Coco will have the night off. Kapler will get the start. He's also considering WMP batting in the #5 with Youk going back to the leadoff.

[BoSox34]

Must win game tonight. If they lose tonight, they've lost consecutive series to Tampa Bay and Kansas City, two of the most pathetic teams in baseball. We would also be facing a sweep on Thursday, which is just disgusting to even think about. We have to win these next two games to build momentum for the upcoming 2 months, and what two better pitchers to have on the mound for us than Schill and Beckett? They can't leave KC without 2 wins.

[Anuj09]

Is Maak Loreter alright ?

[Beckett95]

Mark Loretta is expected to be in todays lineup

[schillingouttheks]

JUST FUCKING WIN GODDAMN IT.

[YanksHater213]

Rafael Nadal vs Hyung-Taik Lee or Red Sox vs. Royals?

looks like another excellent night of tennis watching for me.

on a lighter note me and stocker are going to fridays game B)

[riverside sluggers]

Mark Redman (10 games vs Boston, 1-8 record with a 7.97 ERA---Career at Kauffman Stadium in 13 games, 6-5 record with a 5.76 ERA)
Kevin Youkilis, 1 for 6 (.167 avg) RBI, Walk, 2 Ks
Mark Loretta, 5 for 9 (.556 avg) 2 RBIs, 2 Ks, SB
David Ortiz, 2 for 16 (.125 avg) RBI, 6 Ks
Manny Ramirez, 6 for 22 (.273 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 2 RBIs, 2 Walks, K
Wily Mo Pena, 1 for 3 (.333 avg) 2 Ks
Mike Lowell, 3 for 8 (.375 avg) 2 Ks
Gabe Kapler, 5 for 11 (.455 avg) Double, 2 HRs, 3 RBIs, K
Javy Lopez, 2 for 12 (.167 avg) HR, RBI, 3 Walks, K
Alex Gonzalez, 1 for 5 (.200 avg) K
///
Coco Crisp, 1 for 6 (.167 avg) Double, 2 Ks
Doug Mirabelli, 2 for 6 (.333 avg) HR, RBI, 2 Ks


Josh Beckett (1 game vs Kansas City, 1-0 record with an 0.00 ERA---1st career appearance at Kauffman Stadium)
David DeJesus, 1 for 4 (.250 avg) Double
Mark Grudzielanek, 2 for 4 (.500 avg) RBI, K
Mike Sweeney --
Mark Teahen, 0 for 3, 2 Ks
Shane Costa --
Ryan Shealy, 1 for 3 (.333 avg) RBI
John Buck --
Angel Berroa, 1 for 3 (.333 avg) Double
Joey Gathright, 0 for 3, 3 Ks
///
Paul Bako, 0 for 3, 3 Ks
Emil Brown, 0 for 3, K
Estaban German, 0 for 2
Reggie Sanders, 0 for 8, RBI, 4 Ks

[RedSoxRooter]

From Tito's interview on WEEI today, Coco will have the night off. Kapler will get the start. He's also considering WMP batting in the #5 with Youk going back to the leadoff.

YES!!! I would have done this as soon as Tek and Trot went down.

[BoSox34]

Boston Red Sox (65-46) at Kansas City Royals (39-73), 8:10 p.m.

Probable Starting Pitchers: Boston - Josh Beckett (13-6, 5.00) Kansas City - Mark Redman (7-6, 5.38)

(Sports Network) - Josh Beckett tries for his 14th win of the season this evening when the Boston Red Sox continue their three-game set with the Kansas City Royals at Kauffman Stadium.

Beckett, who match teammate Curt Schilling and Detroit's Justin Verlander for the league lead in wins with a victory tonight, is 13-6 on the year but is pitching to a 5.00 earned run average. Beckett enters this contest after a shaky outing on Thursday against Cleveland that saw him surrender seven runs and 11 hits in six innings.

The 26-year-old right-hander also gave up three home runs in the loss to the Indians and has yielded a major-league high 31 long balls this season.

Beckett, though, could get back on track tonight, as he tossed eight scoreless innings in beating the Royals back on July 19 in his only other appearance against them.

Kansas City will counter with Mark Redman, who is 7-6 on the year with a 5.38 ERA. Redman received a no decision in his last start on Friday against the Minnesota Twins, as he allowed three runs and five hits in 5 1/3 innings of his team's 8-5 loss.

Redman was on the losing end of Beckett's win against the Royals three weeks ago and is a dismal 1-8 lifetime against the Red Sox with a 7.97 ERA in 10 games, nine of which have been starts.

In the opener of this set on Tuesday, Emil Brown went 2-for-4 with a home run and drove in three runs as Kansas City rolled to a 6-4 win. Mike Sweeney, who was activated from the 60-day disabled list prior to the game, went 1-for-3 and scored once as the Royals ended a four-game losing streak.

Kansas City starter Luke Hudson (5-3) gave up three runs on eight hits in six innings to win his fifth straight decision. Ambiorix Burgos notched his 17th save of the season.

Manny Ramirez went 2-for-4 and extended his career-best hitting streak to 23 games for Boston, which has dropped three in a row. David Ortiz belted his major league-leading 41st homer of the season for the Red Sox, who remained two games behind the first-place New York Yankees in the AL East.

Wily Mo Pena added a two-run homer for Boston, which also fell a game back in the AL wild card race to the Chicago White Sox, who defeated the Yankees in extra innings on Tuesday.

Jon Lester (5-2) started for Boston and pitched five innings, allowing four runs on six hits.

Boston swept a three-game set from the Royals earlier in the year and is 16-6 in the series since the start of the 2003 campaign. The Red Sox have also had success in Kansas City, where they have won five of their last nine.



http://146.145.120.3/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=globe&page=mlb/scores/live/pv16963.htm

[TheKilo]

Lineups?

[RoyNHSox]

From The Herald:

1 Kevin Youkilis – 3
2 Mark Loretta – 4
3 David Ortiz – DH
4 Manny Ramirez – 7
5 Wily Mo Pena – 9
6 Mike Lowell – 5
7 Gabe Kapler – 8
8 Javy Lopez – 2
9 Alex Gonzalez – 6

Starting pitcher – Josh Beckett (13-6, 5.00)

Edit: BTW, has anyone noticed that Steve Silva (aka Boston Dirt Dog) is now contributing to the Globe’s Extra Bases? I know the BDD website is affiliated with the Globe, but how long has that hack been contributing articles to the Globe itself?

[Yankees44]

Must win game tonight. If they lose tonight, they've lost consecutive series to Tampa Bay and Kansas City, two of the most pathetic teams in baseball. We would also be facing a sweep on Thursday, which is just disgusting to even think about. We have to win these next two games to build momentum for the upcoming 2 months, and what two better pitchers to have on the mound for us than Schill and Beckett? They can't leave KC without 2 wins.
Schilling should be considered a lock for you to win against KC. As long as Beckett doesn't completely self destruct your offense should hold him up regardless.

[RoyNHSox]

Schilling should be considered a lock for you to win against KC. As long as Beckett doesn't completely self destruct your offense should hold him up regardless.

Lester only allowed 4 runs last night and still he took the L. I’m more concerned with the bullpen self destructing.

[CrespoBlows]

Schilling should be considered a lock for you to win against KC. As long as Beckett doesn't completely self destruct your offense should hold him up regardless.

I don't know. After watching this team for the last two weeks, NOTHING is a lock.

[yeszir]

Gooooooooooooo team!

[Soxfan#1]

I think this is De La Rosa's first appearance against the sox since we traded him.


Edit:Wait, is it Redman or De La rosa starting?

[jsinger121]

It's redman....they switched the 2

[riverside sluggers]

I'll edit the batter vs pitcher matchups

[jsinger121]

Manny goes Boom!!

[YanksHater213]

WOW A LEAD!

[ORS]

Manny mojo is kickin'.

[BoSox34]

That's the Manny mojo right there, nice start.

[schillingouttheks]

Beckett(bos) 13-6 5.00 vs. Mark Redman (KC) 7-6 5.38

Come on Josh, this should be a win tonight!


I have been holding back, but I think its time for some Manny mojo!
Much needed :thumbsup:

Is that 24 games now for Manny?

[RedSoxRooter]

Gooooooooooooo team!

http://www.clicket.com/images/pe40016.jpg

[schillingouttheks]

My name is Greg, I did drugs once, I am a Spartan, SO CHECK ME OUT!

Hey! Who's that Spartan in my teepee? IT'S ME! IT'S ME!

[ORS]

http://www.clicket.com/images/pe40016.jpg
I'll bet money this guy studied Advanced Analytical Therapy in school.

[schillingouttheks]

On second thought, Will Ferrell looks A LOT like Jim Carrey in that picture. Anyone else see it?

[RedSoxRooter]

On second thought, Will Ferrell looks A LOT like Jim Carrey in that picture. Anyone else see it?

I see that it's not Will Ferrell in that pic. :o

[yeszir]

I see that it's not Will Ferrell in that pic. :o
Yea it's definitely not.

[RedSoxRooter]

I found the picture on a costume site. I'm thinkin of getting me one of these muthaz. Just one day I'd like to go to work looking like this. Just once.

http://www.clicket.com/images/D5952.jpg

[jsinger121]

Lopez grounds into a DP

[RedSoxRooter]

go figure

[RoyNHSox]

Lopez grounds into a DP

How unusual for a Sox catcher.

[ORS]

I found the picture on a costume site. I'm thinkin of getting me one of these muthaz. Just one day I'd like to go to work looking like this. Just once.
This one gets my vote.

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/costume_thundercats.jpg

[RedSoxRooter]

AHHHHH. What's that hideous green thing chewing on his hand?????

[ORS]

Peace, I'm out. If the 'pen tries to fuck this game up, sick Liono on them.

[RoyNHSox]

Sloppy effort, or make that no effort, by Berroa to run that play out.

[RoyNHSox]

Javy Lopez with a 2 run double.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Good job Javy!

[Youk Of The Nation]

Roy Oswalt hit his first career home run in the second inning against Pittsburgh.

[RedSoxRooter]

Dammit. I knew we shoulda traded Papelbon, Lester and MDC for Oswalt. We'd but up 5-0 right now. <_< <_< <_<

[Youk Of The Nation]

And oh yeah, Randy Johnson has a no hitter through 5.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Dammit. I knew we shoulda traded Papelbon, Lester and MDC for Oswalt. We'd but up 5-0 right now. <_< <_< <_<

:lol:

[RoyNHSox]

Damon out of the game with a groin injury.

[YanksHater213]

Javy Lopez doubles (17) on a ground ball to left fielder David DeJesus. Mike Lowell scores. Gabe Kapler scores.

ami too drunk or did taht acutlaly ahppen?

[RoyNHSox]

Shit, there goes the no hitter for Beckett.

[EvilDonut]

As soon as i thought about mentioning that, the hit happens.

[EvilDonut]

Oh dear

[BoSox34]

Beckett starting to come undone, hopefully he buckles down here.

[RoyNHSox]

All of a sudden Beckett is giving up the hits.

[RedSoxRooter]

Here we go again. Three hits in a row.

[RoyNHSox]

At least they weren’t all on fastballs.

[jsinger121]

block the ball javy

[Buckeye]

Unbelievable.

[RoyNHSox]

Jesus Christ Lopez do your fucking job.

[jsinger121]

the effects of varitek's injury are showing now as lopez has crossed up a few of our pitchers

[BoSox34]

Speechless..

[RedSoxRooter]

That's right, Josh. Pitch.

[a700hitter]

The last time Varitek was on the DL with a broken elbow in 2001, the team went from contention to a fast spiral out of contention. He means so much to the pitchers game prep and calling the game.

[MANNYHOF24]

Score?

[BoSox34]

4-3 Sox Top 5

[Buckeye]

Score?

Yes please.

[MANNYHOF24]

Loretta Works the walk

[MANNYHOF24]

Is Mannys hitting streak at 23 or 24 games?

[jsinger121]

The last time Varitek was on the DL with a broken elbow in 2001, the team went from contention to a fast spiral out of contention. He means so much to the pitchers game prep and calling the game.

It didn't help that both Pedro and Nomar were also injured for most of the year.

[MANNYHOF24]

It didn't help that both Pedro and Nomar were also injured for most of the year.

If healthy that team could have won the w.s, Pedro Varitek Manny and Nomar all in their prime it would have been excellent.

[a700hitter]

It didn't help that both Pedro and Nomar were also injured for most of the year.It certainly didn't help, but my recollection is that they remained competitive as Nomar was out. Pedro also acknowledged the devastating effect of Tek's injury on the pitching staff.

[MANNYHOF24]

Sacks full for Lowell

[MANNYHOF24]

It certainly didn't help, but my recollection is that they remained competitive as Nomar was out. Pedro also acknowledged the devastating effect of Tek's injury on the pitching staff.

True but Pedro and Tek both went down at about the same time

[RoyNHSox]

The last time Varitek was on the DL with a broken elbow in 2001, the team went from contention to a fast spiral out of contention. He means so much to the pitchers game prep and calling the game.

Scott Hattieburg was god awful too. Tek is most definitely missed right now.

[jsinger121]

Pedro went down in June I believe and was lost for the season. When he went down so did the Red Sox hopes.

[Buckeye]

Get 'em, Lowell!

[MANNYHOF24]

Pedro went down in June I believe and was lost for the season. When he went down so did the Red Sox hopes.

That team contended until about september 9-10th, but fell apart during a 2 weekend 6 game strech agaisnt the yanks

[Buckeye]

Aaaarrrrggghhhhh!!!!

[RoyNHSox]

Aaaarrrrggghhhhh!!!!

Mike’s 16th GIDP. Leads the Sox.

[Buckeye]

Mike’s 16th GIDP. Leads the Sox.

And the 4th team DP in two days...

[jacksonianmarch]

Yeah, Lowell hit into a DP. Oh well. How the HELL does Beckett give up 3 runs in 4 innings to these stiffs. The sox should have a comfortable lead right now. I have a feeling that the sox are in trouble tonight.

[Buckeye]

Yeah, Lowell hit into a DP. Oh well. How the HELL does Beckett give up 3 runs in 4 innings to these stiffs. The sox should have a comfortable lead right now. I have a feeling that the sox are in trouble tonight.

That's been Beckett's pattern the last couple of outings... good stuff for the first 3, maybe 4, innings... then the batters get a second look at his pitches and tee off on all of his fastballs.

[RoyNHSox]

Yeah, Lowell hit into a DP. Oh well. How the HELL does Beckett give up 3 runs in 4 innings to these stiffs. The sox should have a comfortable lead right now. I have a feeling that the sox are in trouble tonight.

Javy's PB allowed 1. (edited)

[RedSoxRooter]

That team contended until about september 9-10th, but fell apart during a 2 weekend 6 game strech agaisnt the yanks

Yeah, and speaking of that, how about the late (great) series coming up next weekend in Boston? Five games in 4 days at home vs NY. Doubleheader Friday :) , day games Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Five day weekend for me. That may be the season right there.

Anyway, I think the rotation for that series will be:

Johnson (game 1 of DH)
Lester (game 2 of DH)
Beckett
Schilling
Wells

Not sure about the Yanks.

[a700hitter]

That team contended until about september 9-10th, but fell apart during a 2 weekend 6 game strech agaisnt the yanksWhich also coincided with the appointment of Kerrigan as the manager. That might have been just as big a factor as Tek going down.

[yeszir]

Yeah, Lowell hit into a DP. Oh well. How the HELL does Beckett give up 3 runs in 4 innings to these stiffs. The sox should have a comfortable lead right now. I have a feeling that the sox are in trouble tonight.
Javy Lopez factored largely into it.

[jacksonianmarch]

Javy Lopez factored largely into it.

That run for Beckett should be earned. You cannot assume a DP on Shealy's groundball. The fact that there were runners on third makes Beckett look bad. He should dominate the RoyAAAls.

[jsinger121]

runs please

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Yeah, and speaking of that, how about the late (great) series coming up next weekend in Boston? Five games in 4 days at home vs NY. Doubleheader Friday :) , day games Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Five day weekend for me. That may be the season right there.

Anyway, I think the rotation for that series will be:

Johnson (game 1 of DH)
Lester (game 2 of DH)
Beckett
Schilling
Wells

Not sure about the Yanks.
From what I heard it could break 2 ways for the Yankees:

Ponson G1 (God I hope not)
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright

OR
They could have Ponson start the game prior to that series and push Lidle to G1 of the DH (Which would make more sense IMO)

Lidle G1
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright.

[RoyNHSox]

That team contended until about september 9-10th, but fell apart during a 2 weekend 6 game strech agaisnt the yanks

How long was baseball suspended during September 2001? A week (or 2)?

[jacksonianmarch]

From what I heard it could break 2 ways for the Yankees:

Ponson G1 (God I hope not)
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright

OR
They could have Ponson start the game prior to that series and push Lidle to G1 of the DH (Which would make more sense IMO)

Lidle G1
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright.

What about Clippard?

[Coco's Disciples]

The Saturday and Sunday games are the best pitching matchups for the Yanks series. Beckett and RJ and Schill and Moose. Thank god those are the 2 on national TV!!!!!!:thumbdown

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

What about Clippard?
Doubtful, I was thinking about calling him up too but I wouldnt want to screw around with him. Hes having a great season in AA just leave him there.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

If the Yankees start Ponson god help the people in the stands. Its going to be raining HR's.

[CrespoBlows]

What about Clippard?

Clippard would die, if he was called up to the bigs.

[jsinger121]

thanks kapler

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

I actually think Hughes could handel it if he were to be called up (for one start). However I wouldnt fool around with him.

[riverside sluggers]

From what I heard it could break 2 ways for the Yankees:

Ponson G1 (God I hope not)
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright

OR
They could have Ponson start the game prior to that series and push Lidle to G1 of the DH (Which would make more sense IMO)

Lidle G1
Wang G2
RJ
Mussina
Wright.

It seems the baseball gods will never give us a Schilling/RJ matchup

[jacksonianmarch]

I actually think Hughes could handel it if he were to be called up (for one start). However I wouldnt fool around with him.

No Hughes. He is a guy who is essentially the jewel of the farm system in front of a "right now" kind of crowd. If the kid comes up and gets pounded against the hated rivals, he will be labelled as a bust after one game. Lets him simmer in the minors and bring him up when necessary next yr.

[Soxfan#1]

Twins win, Yankees ahead and white sox down. need to win this one.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

No Hughes. He is a guy who is essentially the jewel of the farm system in front of a "right now" kind of crowd. If the kid comes up and gets pounded against the hated rivals, he will be labelled as a bust after one game. Lets him simmer in the minors and bring him up when necessary next yr.
Thats the thing that annoys me. All fans arent perfect however can they not be stupid? I was hearing Yankee fans label him a bust after a rough outting in the Futures game. Stupid stupid stupid people.

[RedSoxRooter]

The Saturday and Sunday games are the best pitching matchups for the Yanks series. Beckett and RJ and Schill and Moose. Thank god those are the 2 on national TV!!!!!!:thumbdown

Actually (for me) 4 of the 5 will be on national TV. Games 1, 4 and 5 are on either ESPN or ESPN2 and game 3 is on FOX.

[Coco's Disciples]

Oh, right, those are blacked out for me, thank god.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Those Royals are really playing you guys tough.

[Coco's Disciples]

Lopez SUCKS.

[riverside sluggers]

Lopez SUCKS.

Its not like Beckett's curveball has been perfect the whole night, last couple of curveballs went straight to the dirt. And send a thanks to Lopez because his 2-run double is the difference so far in the game

[jacksonianmarch]

Those Royals are really playing you guys tough.

Beckett is over 100 pitches. Will we see another outing from Freddy or from Koopa (Rudy reminds me of Koopa from Mario Bros). We'll see.

[Soxfan#1]

I just looked at our schedule and realized we play 3 straight series against bad teams till we play the best team in baseball. So far we are 1-3.

Anyone else proud? ;)

[riverside sluggers]

I doubt Tito will send out Tavarez or Seanez whilke Sox still have a slim lead

[RoyNHSox]

MDC was warming. But with 3 innings left why couldn’t Snyder be used for long relief?

fixed: or at least for 2. Everyone else has been used a lot lately.

[jsinger121]

Intentional walk to ortiz. he's getting the old bonds treatment now.

[CrespoBlows]

Probably trying to set up the DP.

[RedSoxRooter]

Beckett is over 100 pitches. Will we see another outing from Freddy or from Koopa (Rudy reminds me of Koopa from Mario Bros). We'll see.

I'd bring Beckett back out for the 7th. If a guy gets on or Beckett gets to 115 then take him out. Need to have guys warming up almost now though.

[riverside sluggers]

and another dp...

[jsinger121]

more fu#kin squanders

[jacksonianmarch]

MDC coming in.

[jacksonianmarch]

DelTimPap? for the future?

[a700hitter]

We are being set up for disappointment again tonight.:(

[Coco's Disciples]

Oh dear, we absolutely cannot lose this game, can we?

[a700hitter]

We can't afford to lose this game, but I am afraid...

[Coco's Disciples]

Wow, that loser is the former president of the Royals?

[a700hitter]

:clap: Way to go Timlin! He pitched him so touigh. HE just didn't give in.

[jsinger121]

a miracle we got out of it without any runs scoring.

[Cityofchampions33]

Cheers to that

[schillingouttheks]

Look, I'm happy our pitching isn't sucking humongous dick tonight, but the lack of run production through the first 7 is starting to get to me. 4 runs against the Royals isn't doing it. They need some more.

[Goalstopper]

we just need a run

[Coco's Disciples]

What was Bell arguing about?

[Goalstopper]

c'mon youk

[schillingouttheks]

Our offense sucks. No runs against Dohmann. This is just amazing. I know we're winning, but my god, nothing has changed with our offense in the past 2-3 weeks.

[riverside sluggers]

another threat against the Royals bullpen and nothing, Youk ends it fittingly with a 3-pitch K. Even worse he was caught looking at a fastball over the heart of the plate

[a700hitter]

More men left on base. The Sox only have 7 hits. This is the worst this team has looked all year.

[riverside sluggers]

More men left on base. The Sox only have 7 hits. This is the worst this team has looked all year.

Dont forget the 8 walks given up by KC, and reaching on base from 2 errors

[RoyNHSox]

That inning was gift wrapped for the Sox. Kapler reaches 1st on a bad call and Javy nearly hits into a DP.

[a700hitter]

Timlin needs to come up big in the 8th.

[a700hitter]

He gets the tough Teahan on a slow grounder to second base.

[BoSox34]

"All the negativity in this town sucks. It sucks, and it stinks, and it sucks." -Rick Pitino

[a700hitter]

Manny played that right. If he dives for that and it gets by him, it's a triple.

[Coco's Disciples]

Timlin needs to get in a groove, we can't have question marks throughout the bullpen. Be nice to shorten the game a little, but Timlin and even Paps have struggled lately. Just gotta get them under control. The defense will be there, the offense will come back.

[jsinger121]

This offense outside of Manny/Ortiz sucks

[Beckett95]

cmon timlin get out of this inning unharmed so Paps can close it out in the 9th.

If we can win tonight, that all but gurantees that the Sox win the series.

Schilling vs. Hernandez tommorow should be a massacre. (Hernandez's is 2-7 with an era of 8.54)

[a700hitter]

Can any of our catchers throw anyone out?

[Coco's Disciples]

No?

[Coco's Disciples]

Thank god, insurance por favor.

[jsinger121]

Can any of our catchers throw anyone out?

Lopez is not a good defensive catcher and does not have a good arm and never has.

[a700hitter]

Timlin does the job! Another slow roller to Second base.

[Romine16]

Im listening to the game right now and just saw that the yanks won...it could be a good thing or a bad thing....I would love to see the Sox win the East!! But, I dont care if they can get the wild card and get back into the playoffs!! I just hope Tavarez and Seanz can get their heads back in the game!!! What does everyone else think!!!


Ryan

[Coco's Disciples]

Yes, it would be nice if we made the playoffs and our pitchers didn't suck...

[a700hitter]

Lopez is not a good defensive catcher and does not have a good arm and never has.It just seems that we never throw out a baserunner. I think Benjie Molina could steal against us. Posada is throwing out legit base stealing threats every night.

[schillingouttheks]

Im listening to the game right now and just saw that the yanks won...it could be a good thing or a bad thing....I would love to see the Sox win the East!! But, I dont care if they can get the wild card and get back into the playoffs!! I just hope Tavarez and Seanz can get their heads back in the game!!! What does everyone else think!!!


Ryan
I think you overuse exclamation marks. But I'm just picky, don't worry. You sound enthused, that's always a plus :D

I think we have no place in the playoffs if we can't win the East. The point is to win. 2nd place in the East is nothing but the first loser. I would be happy if we got into the playoffs through the wild card, but I believe that in the first round, we would have absolutely no shot at getting through the Tigers coming off of the regular season. Let some other team give the Tigers a dose of postseason play before we handle them (assuming an advancement to the ALCS, even though as things look now, I'm not too optimistic about that at all). We needed a starter, and we got nothing done. Our #3 starter is a rookie who's struggling mightily right now, and running out of gas down the stretch. Wells, I can't say anything abuot him until I see him go out and pitch a bit more. Jason Johnson is penciled in for a loss (don't think for a minute you'll ever see another outing like that from him again).

I want the East. If we can't finish ahead of the Yankees, then I don't see how this team will survive in the playoffs.

Welcome back, I see you joined back in January, but I hope you decide to stick around this time. :thumbsup:

Also, your avatar reminds me of a modern day fairweather "Red Sox fan." <_<

[Goalstopper]

thank god for the wild card.:D

[jsinger121]

9 walks so far and we have only 4 runs. just awful

[schillingouttheks]

Going for another 1 run win against the Royals. Absolutely disgusting. This team has been really sucking lately. Someone needs to take charge in the clubhouse and get this team fired up. They look so fucking flat out there it's almost gross to watch.

[Goalstopper]

it looks like it's PAPELBON TIME<_<

[riverside sluggers]

Timlin needs to get in a groove, we can't have question marks throughout the bullpen. Be nice to shorten the game a little, but Timlin and even Paps have struggled lately. Just gotta get them under control. The defense will be there, the offense will come back.

I wouldnt say that Paps has struggled lately. Even after the game tying HR he served up in Tampa, it was still the first run he allowed since the All-Star Break

[a700hitter]

Jason Johnson is penciled in for a loss (don't think for a minute you'll ever see another outing like that from him again).His career winning percentage indicates that he should have a game like that 3 out of every ten starts.:D


I want the East. If we can't finish ahead of the Yankees, then I don't see how this team will survive in the playoffs.It would be a tremendous consolation to block the Yankees and their $230 million payroll from the playoffs.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Is it just me or are the Sox playing a 1 run game almost every night?

[Cityofchampions33]

I agree, beating out the Yanks fo a playoff spot would be fantastic, ultimate slap in the face to the,

[riverside sluggers]

Jason Johnson is penciled in for a loss (don't think for a minute you'll ever see another outing like that from him again).

Jason Johnson will be opposed by Daniel Cabrera (9.64 career ERA vs Boston), so its a toss-up

[Coco's Disciples]

We definitely need a brawl in the Yankees series.

[riverside sluggers]

Is it just me or are the Sox playing a 1 run game almost every night?

they havent won a game by more than 1 run since July 25, so yea a couple of weeks now

[Coco's Disciples]

Fucking shit.

[Beckett95]

WOWW, JUST FUCKING WOWWW

[schillingouttheks]

You've gotta be fucking kidding me. German with a leadoff triple. Tying run 90 feet away.

SOMEONE WAKE UP THIS FUCKING TEAM.

[a700hitter]

Papelbon gives up a triple to the first batter.:shock:

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

Jason Johnson will be opposed by Daniel Cabrera (9.64 career ERA vs Boston), so its a toss-up
You guys own Baltimore. Didnt you guys knock Cabrera out of a game without him recording an out?

[jsinger121]

heartattack

[schillingouttheks]

Jason Johnson will be opposed by Daniel Cabrera (9.64 career ERA vs Boston), so its a toss-up
Eh, our offense doesn't help the cause :(

[Beckett95]

Atleast Gathright cant hit for shit

[jsinger121]

with lopez back there i am scared of a pass ball

[a700hitter]

We need a K

[schillingouttheks]

Atleast Gathright cant hit for shit
And as you say this, watch him hit a walkoff homerun.

[Coco's Disciples]

K, pop up, grounder back to Paps/Lowell, please.

[a700hitter]

Blow this guy away!

[Romine16]

'Also, your avatar reminds me of a modern day fairweather "Red Sox fan."'

I used to live in Boston. In fact I'm moving back to go to college @ BC. So I am quite found of Boston sports teams. I just wonder how you get the above comment? But, however, you do bring up some very good points. With the way we are playing I would say that it is do or die! It seems like at the beginnig of the year the Sox were having the same problem; clutch hitting and bullpen.

The backend of the bullpen has been great because of Papelbon. Timlin has struggled of late, but I'm not to worried about him. Delcarmen is having a decent season! But Tavarez and Seanz, give me a break! Have they ever been good? If the Sox get on fire I would watch out!!

Detroit is having a fantastic season and will run away with the central, but the Sox did do well against them this year, so that would be a good series

[Coco's Disciples]

Good AB by Gathright, this cannot end well. No extra innings puhlease.

[a700hitter]

If he throws a FB inside chest high, this guy will screw himself into the ground.

[Beckett95]

And as you say this, watch him hit a walkoff homerun.
hahaha, it wouldnt surprise with the way the Sox have played lately. Gathright hitting his first career HR as a walkoff of Jon Papelbon...:(

[jsinger121]

big K for paps

[Coco's Disciples]

Attaboy. Give credit where credit is due, good AB by Gathright, although it didn't end well. Didn't DeJesus get a walkoff hit vs. us last year?

[Beckett95]

DeJesus scares me

[Romine16]

One Down

[schillingouttheks]

'Also, your avatar reminds me of a modern day fairweather "Red Sox fan."'

I used to live in Boston. In fact I'm moving back to go to college @ BC. So I am quite found of Boston sports teams. I just wonder how you get the above comment? But, however, you do bring up some very good points. With the way we are playing I would say that it is do or die! It seems like at the beginnig of the year the Sox were having the same problem; clutch hitting and bullpen.
No, no. That wasn't a shot at you. I was just saying in general, a fairweather Sox fan would have changed their jersey from a Yankees one to a Sox one. It wasn't meant to insult you. Sorry if you took it that way.

[a700hitter]

C'mon... another K!!

[Goalstopper]

2 more to go

[Coco's Disciples]

Lopez scares me more than DeJesus.......fuck it's tied.

[jsinger121]

fuck

[a700hitter]

KC announcers just said that Damon has a strong arm compared to Crisp. Fu*K! tie game.

[schillingouttheks]

Pathetic. And Papelbon blows another save.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? I've fucking had it. This type of play is absolutely unacceptable with a team and payroll like this.

[RoyNHSox]

Damn it another blown save. :angry:

[Beckett95]

un-friggen-believable

[jsinger121]

blame this f#@KIN game on the offense for their inability to do anything

[Romine16]

No, no. That wasn't a shot at you. I was just saying in general, a fairweather Sox fan would have changed their jersey from a Yankees one to a Sox one. It wasn't meant to insult you. Sorry if you took it that way.


Oh its all good


Fuckin Shit! Why God! I mean come on the fuckin Royals! This is torture

[Coco's Disciples]

Well, well, well, this is how it's gunna be. This team is NOT playing well at all, we must do something. This is absolute shit. One of the best closers in baseball blows a save to the worst team in baseball, something just ain't right.

[Beckett95]

what the fuck Paps

[jsinger121]

now the winning run is in scoring position.

[schillingouttheks]

blame this f#@KIN game on the offense for their inability to do anything
And Papelbon for blowing back to back saves.

And now a double for Grudzielanek.

This team is done.

[Goalstopper]

well this sucks

[Coco's Disciples]

I got cold sweats when that came off the bat. Just get out of the fucking inning. We better score at least 2 next inning, cause at best our pitcher is Hansen.

[riverside sluggers]

the pen poision might be reaching Paps now, 2 straight blown saves and could give up a walkoff

[jsinger121]

this team needs a spark. I would seriously consider bringing up pedroia to replace loretta and his empty Batting average to give this team a spark

[Beckett95]

game fucking over

[Coco's Disciples]

Fuck.

[Optimist]

Why is it when I always declare games over, something happens?

Chicago was behind by 7, they came roaring back. Papelbon comes in against the ROYALS, and blows the save. Baseball is weird.

[schillingouttheks]

What the fuck just happened?

The Royals just won this series. I am in serious shock right now.

This team is not making the playoffs. I would love to hear anyone try to bail this team out. Please, intrigue me.

[Rdsxmbnt]

damit papelbon :angry: we cant lose these games

[riverside sluggers]

hello no playoffs

4 game losing streak to the D-Rays and Royals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jsinger121]

just wow.....this fucking sucks.....i hate this team

[RoyNHSox]

This is fucking pathetic.

[Beckett95]

THIS TEAM FUCKING SUCKS BALLS

THIS IS ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT

[jacksonianmarch]

huh, what just happened?

[jsinger121]

time to bring up pedroia to light some spark on this team.

[jacksonianmarch]

just wow.....this fucking sucks.....i hate this team

Sorry dude. You should never say that.

[Romine16]

They are getting cold at the wrong time and losing games to horrible teams. Apart from Papi, this team is not getting it done at the right time!!

[RavenOfProphecy]

This is so pathetic it's not even funny.

[riverside sluggers]

3 games back now of the Yankees, it looks like they'll just keep falling

[Beckett95]

well the good news (hopefully), is that Schilling is going up against hernandez and his 8+ era tomorrow

with this offense though, they'll probably end up losing 4-3

[jsinger121]

well the good news (hopefully), is that Schilling is going up against hernandez and his 8+ era tomorrow

watch hernandez shut this pathetic offense down

[mosox]

The Royals telecast on extra innings did not give any replay, I was wondering of Manny dropped the base hit or bobbled it?

[riverside sluggers]

well the good news (hopefully), is that Schilling is going up against hernandez and his 8+ era tomorrow

and the offense has done nothing still against the Royals pitching

bullpen (now Paps) continues to suck for us

I now wont be surprised if Royals sweep us for a 5 game losing streak

[schillingouttheks]

:lol: It's so funny. We didn't win a 1 run game, we actually lost it.

This is just starting to make me laugh. I expect it now.

We are in a total freefall, and the bottom is nowhere close to just put an end to it.

[Romine16]

"Oh God, Oh God, Why have you forsaken us"

[jacksonianmarch]

4 games back in the loss column in the AL East. Ouch.

[Beckett95]

We need Schill tommorow to step up BIG TIME and pitch his best game of the year.

[RedSoxRooter]

Pathetic. And Papelbon blows another save.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? I've fucking had it. This type of play is absolutely unacceptable with a team and payroll like this.

Oh, shut up. I know you guys hate to hear this, but this will be good for Papelbon in the future. Same with Lester's struggles.

[a700hitter]

This has to be the lowest point in years for the Sox. Although they are not as bad as they have looked for the last week, I don't see them going on a winning streak to get them to the playoffs. In 2004 when they went on the winning streak, the starters went deep into games 7th inning and later during the entire streak. The key to that streak was good starting pitching. This team doesn't even have a reliable #2 that can regularly take the game into the late innings. The 3,4, and 5 slots give us 5 innings at best. Thanks for the starter Theo.

[schillingouttheks]

He'll shut the Royals down for 9 innings, not giving up any runs, and the Royals will walk off with the win against Tavarez in the 10th inning.

[Beckett95]

I haven't made a big deal of it yet, but it's blatently obvious that Theo needed to make atleast one move at the deadline.

[Romine16]

4 games back in the loss column in the AL East. Ouch.


Only Three games and just 1 1/2 games out in the wild card!!! It can be done!!

Keep the Faith

[riverside sluggers]

Oh, shut up. I know you guys hate to hear this, but this will be good for Papelbon in the future. Same with Lester's struggles.

Since we're talking about the present (August), id rather he get 2 straight blown saves back in April than it is now. It is not good for him to go through this when his team really needs him to step up in a fading playoffs push

[mtbykr]

Well, i haven't been able to watch the recent games---but from everything i have seen and heard: these are the times when we really miss the damon's and millar's.....the guys who wouldn't let the clubhouse get down (especially millar)....If these guys don't figure out how to relax soon, they won't be playing in october.

[schillingouttheks]

Oh, shut up. I know you guys hate to hear this, but this will be good for Papelbon in the future. Same with Lester's struggles.
I'm not talking just about Papelbon. I'm least upset with him. I mean in general, this team has been sucking so hardcore it's laughable. I'm pretty upset considering we have a 4 game losing streak to teams like Tampa Bay and Kansas City. No one on this team is doing anything.

Just call up the PawSox to finish the season, it will be good for them, right?

[mosox]

This is a bad combo of bad relief pitching and poor hitting. Sox hitters should be pounding this lousy KC pitching.

[jsinger121]

The offense has officially taken the rest of the summer off.

[riverside sluggers]

even with Schil on the mound, im contemplating whether or not I should actually watch the game

[mtbykr]

Oh, shut up. I know you guys hate to hear this, but this will be good for Papelbon in the future. Same with Lester's struggles.


I understand what you are trying to say--however i don't take much good out of not being able to pick up your team when they need it the most!

[schillingouttheks]

Only Three games and just 1 1/2 games out in the wild card!!! It can be done!!

Keep the Faith
I'd love to see that if this team was actually playing half decently.

We're 3 games back in the east and 1.5 out of the wild card because we've free fallen out of first in the east and 3 games back will look like 8 by the end of next weekend at this rate. And that 1.5 will be 5.5.

There's nothing to be optimistic about. Nothing.

[Goalstopper]

if only we had andruw or one of those pitchers that theo was trying to get:thumbdown :angry: we will be out after the good teams cream us.

[schillingouttheks]

even with Schil on the mound, im contemplating whether or not I should actually watch the game
Don't sink to that level man.

[jacksonianmarch]

Only Three games and just 1 1/2 games out in the wild card!!! It can be done!!

Keep the Faith

I said before that if the Red Sox lost ground during the royals series that they will essentially be done. I know the sox have a ton of games left with the yankees, but you have to see that the yankees are getting tough away games out of the way while the sox are getting gimme games out of the way. The Yankees strength of schedule is decreasing by the day while the sox sos is getting higher. The Sox have played 9 consecutive games against teams that are either in last or second to last place in their divisions. 7 of those games were at home. The sox are 3-6 in those games. Playoff teams dont lose those games.

[Romine16]

Its not just the team and the pictching, what about all of the injuries? I know Tek's bat wasnt hot, but his leadership is missed, wakefield, nixon, clement (who cares), and wells..this is never good regardless of what team you are and how bad you suck!

[riverside sluggers]

Only Three games and just 1 1/2 games out in the wild card!!! It can be done!!

Keep the Faith

12-14 since the Break
3-6 in August
lost 8 out of their last 10 series

maybe they can buy some prayers... so anyways go Mets

[jacksonianmarch]

I'd love to see that if this team was actually playing half decently.

We're 3 games back in the east and 1.5 out of the wild card because we've free fallen out of first in the east and 3 games back will look like 8 by the end of next weekend at this rate. And that 1.5 will be 5.5.

There's nothing to be optimistic about. Nothing.

Lets just remember, the sox were up 4 in the loss column 3 weeks ago. They have dropped 8 games in the standings in 3 weeks playing against the dregs of the bigs. This is bad for the sox.

[schillingouttheks]

Its not just the team and the pictching, what about all of the injuries? I know Tek's bat wasnt hot, but his leadership is missed, wakefield, nixon, clement (who cares), and wells..this is never good regardless of what team you are and how bad you suck!
I don't miss Nixon. He should have been benched awhile ago. Pena's power is more appealing than Nixon's lack of it.

Isn't WMP's EqA 4 point higher than Nixon's? I saw that somewhere on this board.

[riverside sluggers]

Don't sink to that level man.

I'll sink to a level beneath the ground if I see the offense/bullpen fuck it up for him like they have been doing this past month & a half

[a700hitter]

The offense has officially taken the rest of the summer off.Teams do go into hitting slumps, but that's when the pitching on good teams step up. We don't have the horses on the hill. It's just that simple. That's the major reason why the Sox cannot get back into this thing.

[schillingouttheks]

I'll sink to a level beneath the ground if I see the offense/bullpen fuck it up for him like they have been doing this past month & a half
Yeah, but don't give up on your team. At least I can tell this is all out of anger. Tomorrow you'll be right in front of your TV watching the team you love, and you know it.

[Optimist]

I really wish I could be as negative about the Sox as you guys. :lol:

[jacksonianmarch]

Its not just the team and the pictching, what about all of the injuries? I know Tek's bat wasnt hot, but his leadership is missed, wakefield, nixon, clement (who cares), and wells..this is never good regardless of what team you are and how bad you suck!

Lets not use the injuries excuse. The team that is cruising right now ahead of the sox had a .325 hitter on the DL for 5 weeks, 2 perennial MVP candidates on the DL since early May, a 40mil starter on the DL the entire yr, the captain banged up, the CFer with a broken foot and a bad groin, a catcher with a bad knee, and a roided 1b with a multitude of small injuries. The sox injuries are very small in comparison to the yankees, the excuse doesnt work.

[schillingouttheks]

I really wish I could be as negative about the Sox as you guys. :lol:
When it rains, it pours.

How fitting. I just heard my brother playing Tom Petty's song " Free Fallin' " in the other room.

[Romine16]

I said before that if the Red Sox lost ground during the royals series that they will essentially be done. I know the sox have a ton of games left with the yankees, but you have to see that the yankees are getting tough away games out of the way while the sox are getting gimme games out of the way. The Yankees strength of schedule is decreasing by the day while the sox sos is getting higher. The Sox have played 9 consecutive games against teams that are either in last or second to last place in their divisions. 7 of those games were at home. The sox are 3-6 in those games. Playoff teams dont lose those games.


very valid point, but its way too early to quit so soon! There is 49 games left this season and we have no idea what is in store for the rest of the season! Granted it does look very grim for the Sox, and with no blockbuster deal made before the trade deadline it looks even bleeker, but it is still way too early. The sun has to shine on the dog's ass every so often!!

[a700hitter]

Yeah, but don't give up on your team. At least I can tell this is all out of anger. Tomorrow you'll be right in front of your TV watching the team you love, and you know it....and I am hating myself right now because you are right, and I am like a hopeless addict.:(

[schillingouttheks]

The sun set 3 weeks ago, and it isn't coming back up. Not until someone lights a fire under this team's ass.